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| + | MinisterSinister: As far as I'm concerned, brevity is the soul of misinterpretation. | ||
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| + | DanielDraco: I changed this considerably, but the earlier builds were meant to emphasize that Aspies really don't ''get'' social interactions. At all. As a result, they tend to be liabilities. Maybe not to the level of "I drop my trousers and wizz on the king!", but pretty darned close. I have Asperger's myself, which is why I built this in the first place. (I did base it somewhat off of myself... I shouldn't have included the Wisdom and perception nerfs, though, as that's really ADHD, not Asperger's.) | ||
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| + | Fluffykittens: 3 feats sounds like a bit much, but the way I had this set up before, there was ''no'' way someone with this flaw could be anything ''but'' a liability in social situations. Yes, Charisma tends to be useless for anyone not built to use it, but this flaw pretty much precluded several classes. Out of the core alone, an Aspie sorcerer, paladin, cleric, or bard would be an utter joke. Heck, even a rogue, who has some uses for high Int, has much more need of a good Charisma score to actually utilize most of its skills. Also, there's no way in heck an Aspie could get away with Use Magic Device abuse. Also, an Aspie tends to quickly realize that he/she sucks balls at socializing, which drives them away from even ''trying'' to do it. That's a textbook weak personality. But the poor perception thing? Uh... actually, that would be ADHD. Why did I ever lump that into this?!? I must have been trying to amass as much suck as I could into one package. --[[User:Luigifan18|Luigifan18]] ([[User talk:Luigifan18|talk]]) 19:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
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MisterSinister opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4. |
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| What all the others have said. Also, brevity is the soul of wit. |
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DanielDraco opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4. |
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| So not only does it minmax the fuck out of any int-based build, but you get 3 bonus feats on top of that? Come on, dude.
Also, everything that Lez said. As someone who has Asperger's and has known several others who also do, I have to especially agree that the severity is way off-kilter. At least for a typical case. |
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Leziad opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4. |
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| What Fox said, also flaws never grant benefits except the bonus feat. Also Asperger syndrome is not that extreme. |
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Fluffykittens opposes this article and rated it 0 of 4. |
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| Mechanically:+3 feats and +6 int in return for bruising a bunch of dump stats. A trait masquerading as a flaw. Autistic people are not blinder, deafer, or worse at medicine than other people, nor are they unusually weak-willed or oblivious to their surroundings. Autistic people do not have unusually weak personalities. "(Both scores cannot be reduced to less than 1 by this flaw, but their modifiers can be reduced to less than -5.)" How the fuck does this work mechanically? Fluffwise: Autism does not work that way. All Autism is is a social deficiency to a varying degree- and Asperger's is a very mild form of that. |
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Foxwarrior dislikes this article and rated it 1 of 4. |
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| This has all of the problems it did before, in smaller quantities. |
MinisterSinister: As far as I'm concerned, brevity is the soul of misinterpretation.
DanielDraco: I changed this considerably, but the earlier builds were meant to emphasize that Aspies really don't get social interactions. At all. As a result, they tend to be liabilities. Maybe not to the level of "I drop my trousers and wizz on the king!", but pretty darned close. I have Asperger's myself, which is why I built this in the first place. (I did base it somewhat off of myself... I shouldn't have included the Wisdom and perception nerfs, though, as that's really ADHD, not Asperger's.)
Fluffykittens: 3 feats sounds like a bit much, but the way I had this set up before, there was no way someone with this flaw could be anything but a liability in social situations. Yes, Charisma tends to be useless for anyone not built to use it, but this flaw pretty much precluded several classes. Out of the core alone, an Aspie sorcerer, paladin, cleric, or bard would be an utter joke. Heck, even a rogue, who has some uses for high Int, has much more need of a good Charisma score to actually utilize most of its skills. Also, there's no way in heck an Aspie could get away with Use Magic Device abuse. Also, an Aspie tends to quickly realize that he/she sucks balls at socializing, which drives them away from even trying to do it. That's a textbook weak personality. But the poor perception thing? Uh... actually, that would be ADHD. Why did I ever lump that into this?!? I must have been trying to amass as much suck as I could into one package. --Luigifan18 (talk) 19:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
