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Do humans still gain bonus skill points?  Isn't that overpowered?----[[User:Parakee|Parakee]] 14:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 
Do humans still gain bonus skill points?  Isn't that overpowered?----[[User:Parakee|Parakee]] 14:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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:They do. And no, not really. They're effectively trading being good at an extra thing (or a couple of side things) for being exceptionally good at a thing or two through racial bonuses. Broad training over specialization basically. Specialization matters less after a few levels because of masterwork skill items, but broad training matters less when skill items show up and people can just buy skill additional skills if they really need or want them. It basically all works out. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] 16:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Propertizing

Can someone who knows the wiki more than me set up a Tome of Prowess Skills property for classes to have, and maybe a block to copypasta that sets them all as class skills? Thanks, I'd appreciate having this since I want to reference this in stuff I'm writing. --IGTN 05:36, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

This I can do, but I'm going to delay until I'm more conscious. Also, I want to ponder whether it makes sense to stick ToP skills in the regular property or make a new ToPSkill property. - Tarkisflux 07:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I've seen properties hold multiple roles depending on where they are used. But since they are to be used alongside normal skills, it might make more sense to have TomeSkill. This is a part of the Tome system, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Havvy (talkcontribs) at
Yes and no. It's written assuming that you're not using any other Tome material, but designed to be compatible with them if you wanted to use them. If you are using Tome classes, they don't generally need the same boost or the same number of skill points.
Anyway, yeah it gets it's own property. Drop this into the table after the regular skill set if you want them both IGTN, or just replace the regular skill set with this one if you don't.
|- class="noalt"
| colspan="42" class="skill" |
'''Class Skills, Tome of Prowess Variant (### per level, ×4 at 1st level)'''<br/>
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Acrobatics|Acrobatics}} ([[SRD:Dexterity|Dex]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Affability|Affability}} ([[SRD:Charisma|Cha]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Animal Handling|Animal Hnadling}} ([[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Appraisal|Appraisal}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Arcana|Arcana}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Athletics|Athletics}} ([[SRD:Constitution|Con]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Bluff|Bluff}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Ciphers|Ciphers}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Concentration|Concentration}} ([[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Cultures|Cultures}} ([[SRD:Charisma|Cha]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Devices|Devices}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Disguise|Disguise}} ([[SRD:Charisma|Cha]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Dowsing|Dowsing}} ([[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Dungeoneering|Dungeoneering}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Endurance|Endurance}} ([[SRD:Constitution|Con]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Escape Artistry|Escape Artistry}} ([[SRD:Dexterity|Dex]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Geomancy|Geomancy}} ([[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Healing|Healing}} ([[SRD:Charisma|Cha]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Intimidation|Intimidation}} ([[SRD:Charisma|Cha]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Jump|Jump}} ([[SRD:Strength|Str]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Legerdemain|Legerdemain}} ([[SRD:Dexterity|Dex]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Perception|Perception}} ([[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Psychology|Psychology}} ([[SRD:Intelligence|Int]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Stealth|Stealth}} ([[SRD:Dexterity|Dex]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Survival|Survival}} ([[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]])
{{Property Link|ToP Skill|Tome_of_Prowess_(3.5e_Sourcebook)/Thaumaturgy|Thaumaturgy}} ([[SRD:Charisma|Cha]])
Wheee. - Tarkisflux 17:04, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Human bonus skills?

Do humans still gain bonus skill points? Isn't that overpowered?----Parakee 14:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

They do. And no, not really. They're effectively trading being good at an extra thing (or a couple of side things) for being exceptionally good at a thing or two through racial bonuses. Broad training over specialization basically. Specialization matters less after a few levels because of masterwork skill items, but broad training matters less when skill items show up and people can just buy skill additional skills if they really need or want them. It basically all works out. - Tarkisflux 16:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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