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I'd hardly call this Very High, especially since it doesn't do anything for your caster level which renders the higher-level abilities (and any spellcasting you already have) really weak. [[User:LenKagetsu|LenKagetsu]] ([[User talk:LenKagetsu|talk]]) 15:24, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | I'd hardly call this Very High, especially since it doesn't do anything for your caster level which renders the higher-level abilities (and any spellcasting you already have) really weak. [[User:LenKagetsu|LenKagetsu]] ([[User talk:LenKagetsu|talk]]) 15:24, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
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::Echoing what Leziad said because of an edit conflict, I think it's Very High due to the number of save-or-suck abilities it possesses (blind, daze, etc.) moreso than any spellcasting progression or lack thereof. Those abilities can effectively end encounters and as a result can pretty much be considered Very High. - [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] ([[User talk:ThunderGod Cid|talk]]) 20:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | ::Echoing what Leziad said because of an edit conflict, I think it's Very High due to the number of save-or-suck abilities it possesses (blind, daze, etc.) moreso than any spellcasting progression or lack thereof. Those abilities can effectively end encounters and as a result can pretty much be considered Very High. - [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] ([[User talk:ThunderGod Cid|talk]]) 20:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :::Let's see... It's a swift action to at-will dazzle (plus bonus penalties) someone, and you can double that in a round to at-will blind someone at 4. You can then daze lock them at 7. Plus a bunch of AoE powers, random buffs, standard low level attack bits, etc. So yeah, VH, though maybe not if you get in at a more traditional PrC time. | ||
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| + | :::I'm just not sure where you go from here. You can get in at 2 by going a Bard/Druid/Wizard/Etc. 1 and be out by 9. You don't care about any of those starting classes at that point, and so won't be going back to them. You don't have great BAB or other moderate BAB class features to get into other PrCs. Maybe a ToB class? It's like you're getting the PrC part of your character out of the way at the start, and then going back for your non-caster base class later on. Seems a bit odd, even if I suspect it's functional. - [[User:Tarkisflux|Tarkisflux]] <sup>[[User talk:Tarkisflux|Talk]]</sup> 21:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Balance
I'd hardly call this Very High, especially since it doesn't do anything for your caster level which renders the higher-level abilities (and any spellcasting you already have) really weak. LenKagetsu (talk) 15:24, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- It not a class for spellcasters though, it VH because it has utterly debilitating abilities. --Leziad (talk) 20:43, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Echoing what Leziad said because of an edit conflict, I think it's Very High due to the number of save-or-suck abilities it possesses (blind, daze, etc.) moreso than any spellcasting progression or lack thereof. Those abilities can effectively end encounters and as a result can pretty much be considered Very High. - TG Cid (talk) 20:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Let's see... It's a swift action to at-will dazzle (plus bonus penalties) someone, and you can double that in a round to at-will blind someone at 4. You can then daze lock them at 7. Plus a bunch of AoE powers, random buffs, standard low level attack bits, etc. So yeah, VH, though maybe not if you get in at a more traditional PrC time.
- I'm just not sure where you go from here. You can get in at 2 by going a Bard/Druid/Wizard/Etc. 1 and be out by 9. You don't care about any of those starting classes at that point, and so won't be going back to them. You don't have great BAB or other moderate BAB class features to get into other PrCs. Maybe a ToB class? It's like you're getting the PrC part of your character out of the way at the start, and then going back for your non-caster base class later on. Seems a bit odd, even if I suspect it's functional. - Tarkisflux Talk 21:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
