Talk:Horde Controller (3.5e Feat)

Prerequisite

I would give it a level 5 spell prereq so people don't pick it up too early. --Ghostwheel (talk) 20:39, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Meant level 5 spells, not CL 5. Even at character level 5, low-level skeletons and zombies can be a real threat in as great a number as this feat can give. If you maintain that, I would bump up the balance level. --Ghostwheel (talk) 21:49, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

I am pretty sure a level 5 monk can kill an unlimited amount of Human Skeleton Warrior. --Leziad (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

It's not as much about what they can kill, as much as it is about how many is required to kill them.

Using this feat, a level 5 cleric can have up to 40 skeletons or zombies. 40 human skeletons is an EL 7 encounter. By giving one feat to a BBEG at level 5, you've more than doubled his EL alone. At that point it's not about how many a monk can kill--it's about the probability of 10 or so attacks per round, and the attrition of him going down before he kills them all, much less reaching the cleric controlling them who's throwing out spells at the same time.I hope that illustrates more my point.

The reason I suggested getting this around level 10 is because characters don't have an AC that's going to get hit on 15+ish, and are going to be able to auto-hit an enemy with every attack. --Ghostwheel (talk) 12:26, 11 January 2016 (UTC)