Talk:Orator (3.5e Feat)

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Check and Save[edit]

Sorry for the late posting of concerns, I missed this when it was originally put up.

The opposed check here doesn't really fit with other all-or-none abilities in ToP. I've tried to reserve opposed checks like this for cases where there are already degrees of success for the opposition, since that mitigates the really high or really low DC outcomes. In this case, a psych check against DC = affability bonus +10 or a will save against DC = affability ranks - 3 (or both) is probably more appropriate. Requiring some lead in time of talking before you can trigger the effect (like two full rounds or a minute) might also be desirable, just to reduce fascinate spam. I also don't see much reason for the one minute limit, and would probably make it "duration of speech, to a maximum of 1 minute per rank in affability". - Tarkisflux Talk 19:30, 29 October 2011 (UTC)